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    Sideon

    Whatever happened to the "make love, not war" movement? Love the underwear pic :) If nations threatened to withhold sex because of conflict and war, the world would be one big ole happy orgasm. The US military and arms budget alone could supply the entire world with condoms, lubricant, sexual aides, and other forms of birth control.

    Hey Bush - Bring it on.

    Cynthia Bagley

    Hey guy... we were in Germany for five years and no guns are allowed, but it didn't stop the killing. One guy next to our village killed his girlfriend with a knife.

    Cyn

    CV Rick

    That's a classic Strawman, Cynthia. I never said that reducing gun violence would end all murders - so you're countering an imaginary argument. I also never claimed that murders don't happen anywhere else - so again you're countering an imaginary argument. What I do say is that free access to guns increases gun violence and increases gun murders in the United States - that's a real argument.

    Cynthia Bagley

    Nope CV no strawman... what I am saying is that reducing guns does not reduce murders--murders just get committed using another type of weapon. And because I have lived in Japan, Africa, Panama, and Germany, I am using the examples that I know and understand because a lot anti-gun sorts use Europe as an example of a no-gun utopia. No offense.

    In England, cops were not allowed to carry guns until recently. During that time, gun violence in England rose. Today, their cops have guns... they now do not have the gun violence as before.

    In Germany (I was there five years), they do not have the miranda rights that we enjoy. When a girl was raped and murdered, all of the men were required to get a DNA test. Also, if a cop there says STOP... you STOP or find yourself beat with a BIG stick or pistol whipped.

    I live in an area in the US where anyone over 18 could be carrying a gun. We don't hear about the gun rage that others talk about in other areas like California.

    I have been around guns all my life. My father had a 22. He also had a bow and arrow, which I considered more dangerous than the gun. I have a 38 pistol. I have only shoot those guns in a gun range.

    I believe that anyone who uses guns should be trained. I view a gun as a tool.

    Yours, Cyn...

    PS... what makes the US great is that we can live peacefully in a country with different opinions.

    CV Rick

    Yeah yeah yeah . . . I've lived on four continents, in at least 7 countries and have been to dozens of others. I've also lived in a dozen states . . . blah blah blah . . .

    It was completely and totally a strawman, Cyn. You might want to look up the definition. Your claim seems to be that murder rates are not affected *at all* by gun proliferation. Please support that with facts that don't include appeals to authority.

    I own a handgun, a shotgun, and two rifles, just to give you perspective. I'm not, however, self-deluded about the affect of gun violence on a society.

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