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    mark

    hmmm, makes me kinda wonder what happend to him in 'Nam to make him go after religion...I've met quite a few 'Nam vets and a lot of them are pretty screwed up

    Cherise

    Powerful stuff, Rick. You were right, this was a sad one. :(

    Sister Mary Lisa

    God, Rick. You made me cry with this one, as I recognized my own addicted dad in this story yet again.

    Now, he's alone with his church, doing geneology like his life depends on it until late into the night, working in a temple two hours away once a week, but failing to reply to his apostate daughter's emails asking him how he's doing, and would he like to talk about why I left the church.

    I shouldn't have read this first thing today. I need to go fix my makeup.

    Sideon

    It's rare (for me at least) to see discussions of religion in terms of addiction. Who steps in to help when people focus so much on the religious structures that they lose their own families? Is there a "Religious Anonymous" line? The sad thing is that those who are addicted don't even realize the damage they're creating and pervading.

    My birth father also served a tour in Vietnam (sniper), but he didn't come back to religion - it was to the other addictions of drugs, alcohol and sex. Of my father (who raised me), I'm glad that he was not addictive. He is very laid back, calm, and enjoys his daily 2-3 bottles of Budweiser while still considering himself a good Mormon. My bias is that he is a good man, Mormon or not.

    Snark alert. I've said this in various incarnations in the blogosphere, but...

    What good are families if can't sell them on Ebay?

    CV Rick

    I'm going to be known as the blogger who makes all the girls cry.

    I wish there was a Religious Anonymous line. Unfortunately the only ones out there willing to rescue people from a religion are just trying to immerse them in another one, as equally destructive.

    Success Warrior

    Ricky Picky Puddin' Pie.

    Lucky for you Puddin', I'm not the type of person to take this kind of nickname thing and propogate it on the net.

    How come you didn't tell me you were Mormon before? That explains a lot. I'm glad I read this blog.

    Have you sent your dad the link to this blog yet? What was his email address again? godsannointed@imamormonandbetterthanyouandyourgoingtohellhahabuticansaveyoufortenpercent.ut.gov

    Graeme

    Great stuff Rick. Religion is one of the worst drugs there is.

    a rose is a rose

    i was raised a catholic. i went to catholic school in grades 1 through 3. on sundays we had to sit with our class at mass (that was very odd indeed i think). anyway, my mom went to church too but my father really never did. they both considered themselves to be catholics though. at some point my mom stopped going too. i stopped 'believing' some time in junior high. i never looked back.

    funny thing is, i made the decision to pull the plug on my mother (my father and sisters entrusted this to me because they couldn't handle it). i didn't want to but i knew i had to call a priest in for extreme unction (i feel one NEVER gets to say extreme unction often enough). the hospital arranged that for us and within minutes there was a priest at my mother's bedside. he was african with an accent SO thick none of us could understand him. HOWEVER, there was just something in that man's eyes. i knew my sisters and my father were comforted by just his presence. he gave my mother the sacrament of extreme unction, hugged all of us and went on his way.

    from that day forward my father has been attending mass every sunday and every holy day. he is NOT a fanatic and to the best of my knowledge doesn't care if i go to church (again, i DO NOT) or not. i think he found some sort of comfort in the church and for that, i thank the church. any way, i'm going to say extreme unction one more time, then sign off
    -the rose without her bud

    Amy

    Take heart, Rick. You didn't make this girl cry. You pissed her off. Well, you didn't, per se, but the subject matter did.

    CV Rick

    Thanks Amy. It's actually a tough subject for me to write about.

    Hellmut

    Thanks for sharing that, Rick. My father was an alcoholic. He had a pretty hard life and made life hard for us. And yet I think that Mormonism messed more with me than my dad.

    Anyways, it's important to keep in mind that one can never know if another person really has a choice. I am pretty sure that my father did not have much choice. May be, your father did not have that much choice either.

    CV Rick

    Thank you, Hellmut.

    The thing is my father believed he had complete choice in everything. Free Agency is king and all that.

    It's hard growing up with an addict.

    frustrated and overwhelmed

    Rick, that was an amazing story. I'm not Mormon but I've watched my husband replace me with his reading, studying to quickly looking like an addict. I'd never in a million years thought of religion as a possible addiction until I googled it. Is there any way to get him to see that he really does have a part in the destruction of our marriage and that he has become virtually obsessed? I have two kids, one of them sees his behavior but is choosing to enable it because he is now talking to her again so she is happy. And my son is just oblivious. PLEASE HELP ME!

    CVRick

    Frustrated and Overwhelmed, I'm going to address your request in a new blog post.

    Stanley Duett

    Hi Rick, I read your Story on Growing up Mormon: Religious Addiction. I can't explain how I understand I too Grew up in the Church, On the side of the RLDS in Independence, Missouri what our Churches call the Ceter Place. But not my Church calls themselves something else, although they still follow the teachings of Joseph Smith. That is the one difference in the division of the two church We don't believe that Brigam Young had the calling from God to lead Joseph follers. My story different than yours. My mother a member of the church and my father a non beliver. Grandpa was a Preist and his brother a Seventy and or a Patriarc (I question the spellings.) I too am now a non believer. But always in the cornor of my mind I do believe in the basic concept, I just don't buy into religious homophobia. After Prop 8 in california I was even more upset that our church spent so much to descriminate. The addictions in our family are similar. Some obsesed with money and control. After all my third great grandfather was on the minutes of the church history book he had four wives. And yes I have done all the research of family history too. My grandfather tried to engage us in the church acttivites and I did some on my own. My brother became a Jehovah Wittness and he took his obsesions even further into the world of Drugs maybe would our church that we have left behind need to do is to stop the obsessive patterns that make our lives dificult to fit into the real world. They need to realize that there are Gay people that are not petifiles, and that not all people are siners because we don't follow there teachings. Now I live in another Mormon Community in Mesa and I wish eveyday that I was back in San Francisco or New York even NY was not my favorite place. But anything is better than having to deal with religious people that can see the sun shine for their beliefs.

    Jessica

    As a young child, I was forced to take cooinummn before I was ready. My grandmother was methodist and was a shut-in. I stayed with her often and when the preacher would come to call we all had to take cooinummn. I remember being a very scared little girl being told this was blood and flesh it was eerie. AND I was in church. I just didn't have the background to understand it all.Even to this day, as a 33 year old woman, I still sorta cringe when it is time to take cooinummn. I know that sounds silly, but it's true. I just think about those days as a kid when it was forced and I was not ready. I have 3 kids, ages 10, 7, and 6. One has been baptized but she has never asked to take cooinummn and I've never forced it on her. We attend a contemporary church and cooinummn is given every few months or so. It is not an every Sunday occurance. Most Sunday's she opts to be in the kids service so they aren't exposed to it as much anyhow.Good questions.Lindsey recently posted..

    Irismar

    Our Pastor gave us a book when our daughter truned 3. It's called My Place at God's Table . We homeschool and have daily devotions time integrated into our schedule and along with doing a child friendly devotion we also read a short passage out of our bible and we read this nice book that explains the significance and meaning of communion. Alyvia started taking communion shortly after we were given this book and I know she generally understands the concept but she is also growing daily in her relationship with Christ. I don't feel it is a tradition I feel it is an important part of Lyvi and Christ Jesus' realtionship that I am nurturing in His name daily.Shylo recently posted..

    Sude

    For our family, the cireblateon of communion is tied to their personal relationship with Christ. When they understand His death, resurrection, and invitation to be their Savior, and they invite Him into their lives, we allow them to begin taking communion. My oldest joined us in big church' at age 5, and had already began her personal relationship with Christ. My second daughter, did not become a Christian a little later. So it has varied with each child.I think that Communion can be a wonderful teaching moment for all parents. And when they get it', it is beautiful!Stacey recently posted..

    Lucia

    I wrote a blog post some months ago (on my privtae blog) comparing a Romney speech with an Obama speech saying I thought Obama spoke well and Romney not so well. I think I also wrote at the time that we had little to gain or lose from Romney being in office.I've since re-thought that last part I think we have a lot to gain or perhaps a lot to lose, with Romney in office. It's a huge opportunity, in many ways, for one of our own to demonstrate that a Mormon can be a capable leader, a good person, intelligent at the same time, there is the very real potential risk that a majority or sizable minority of the country's population (or even the world's population) could come to dislike a Mormon president for a variety of reasons.So I take back my idea that we have little to gain or lose if Romney runs well or even wins the election. There is a lot going on here and we may not be able to foresee many of the potential implications good or bad.

    Mdzihadi

    Hey girl, I'm so glad I found you. I tried to click on your picture but could never get your link to pull up on Robin's page. Your girls are so big!!!! I can't belevie they are the same little ones that used to balance on Greg's palm. Time goes by so quickly! I love being able to keep in touch with friends and family like this. I'll check back often to see what you guys are up to. Your family is beautiful! I can't wait to see the pictures of your house it sounds great! Jennifer

    Alvaro

    We don't believe that Brigam Young had the calling from God to lead Joseph follers. My story different than yours. My mother a member of the church and my father a non beliver. Grandpa was a Preist and his brother a Seventy and or a Patriarc (I question the spellings.) I too am now a non believer. But always in the cornor of my mind I do believe in the basic concept, I just don't buy into religious homophobia. After Prop 8 in california I was even more upset that our church spent so much to descriminate. The addictions in our family are similar. Some obsesed with money and control. After all my third great grandfather was on the minutes of the church history book he had four wives. And yes I have done all the research of family history too.

    Danijela

    Sharon The Mom Bautista - Dang!!! Why do my eyes always tear up when I read this??? Great Job Maria!!!! And the rest of the team gets major kudos from this mom!! Thank you all for being the hands and feet of Jesus.

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